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Have moved 21st-century classical music to 21st-century Western classical music revert discuss or help with the giant clean up. On phone at mo as computer in for repairs — — Iadmc ♫^talk 14:36, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wind ensemble transcriptions

Hello. I've been wondering: should we list any notable wind ensemble transcriptions for certain articles such as Festive Overture, 1812 Overture, and so on? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:36, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of pieces are arranged for wind band; sometimes there are multiple versions. Often, notable works are arranged for a wide array of instruments and ensembles. Unless these arrangements are by the composer themselves, I don't see any reason to mention any of them. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:36, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CurryTime7-24: What is your opinion on the transcription section for List of concert band literature? Why? I Ask (talk) 03:54, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some orchestral works are so frequently, and notably, performed by wind ensembles that it would be unencyclopedic not to mention their transcription. The list of concert band literature mentioned above is an almost unsourced list, so it's difficult to form an opinion about its value. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:20, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In this case, should we use the actual wind ensemble scores as references where necessary? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:34, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Most famous orchestral pieces have transcriptions but only a select few (e.g., Slava! A Political Overture and "Elsa's Procession to the Cathedral") are really part of the standard band repertoire. Simply using scores as sources does not help us decide what is actually commonly played and what is just for sale. Why? I Ask (talk) 05:15, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The list would be much better, if based off surveys such as [1] [2] and [3]. The current divisions of "cornerstone" "respected" and (?) "recent" is nonsensical WP:OR. Aza24 (talk) 07:18, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just asked Cicconi for a copy of their book last week. Great book! Why? I Ask (talk) 22:01, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New page for violist Donald McInnes

Hello, I recently created a draft page for Donald McInnes, a violist who recently died. Would anyone here be willing to review the draft? I work at the BYU Library and we recently acquired McInnes's papers in our music special collections, which is why I chose to create the page. I have declared this COI on the talk page of the draft. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:10, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rachel, I've gone ahead and reviewed (and accepted) the article. Frankly I'm surprised he didn't have one already; he was a renowned violist, highly sought after as a teacher, even more so than as a performer, at least IMO (but I didn't add that to the article). Thank you for taking this on. Incidentally, that Primose archive at BYU is a magnificent resource, and I'm glad McInnes's papers ended up at your library. Antandrus (talk) 02:35, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reviewing it! Since my editing as a paid BYU employee has come under some scrutiny lately, I appreciate the help as I try to be extra conservative about the way we create new pages. I enjoyed learning about McInnes's work (and a little more about viola repertoire). Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:41, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We can also find some newspapers and interviews on McInnes's life as necessary. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:40, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed roll back at Modernism (music)

The article Modernism (music) currently has 35 sfn error: no target messages. These were introduced by User:EdwardElric2016 and they were notified about that on 20 April 2024. It's impractical to expect anyone else to fix these incomplete citations, so I propose to roll back 172 edits and revert to the article's last clean version from 18 January 2024. Alternative suggestions are welcome at Talk:Modernism (music)#Edits after 18 January 2024 -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If we do that we loose a lot of information that the user added (based on the Spanish Wikipedia, it seems). The user hasn't edited since July, so won't help. Wouldn't it be easier to fix the citations than to create the added content once more? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:27, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Did you look at that page with User:Svick/HarvErrors.js / User:Trappist the monk/HarvErrors.js / .harv-error {display: inline !important;} enabled? IMO, repair is not possible. Even if the original editor added the missing sources, there would still be a large number of completely unsourced paragraphs. That's why I propose to WP:STARTOVER. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:52, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I misunderstood "incomplete" as the refs are missing something (which we might find), but get from the last post that they may be just not there. Sigh. MONTENSEM, what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:06, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's doable. I would be willing to take it on; I could probably tackle everything with regard to citations and some superficial tweaking (on a cursory glance, it strikes me as a bit dated; but not necessarily in a bad way, and I wouldn't want to dig into it too much). I just don't have a lot of time or sense of what the future holds for me right now, so I hesitate to promise anything. I could try to do it here and there over the next year. MONTENSEM (talk) 01:01, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for volunteering, but in the meantime, I'm now going to revert mostly as I indicated. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:38, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New page for Swiss/Russian violinist Alexander Scherbakov, son of Konstantin Scherbakov, pianist

Hello! I’d like to suggest an article for Alexander Scherbakov, a concert violinist and conductor with some notable coverage. Sources include:

Epoch Times feature on his musical journey: https://www.epochtimes.de/kultur/durch-die-musik-in-den-westen-a470485.html
Gezupftes.de video and bio: https://www.gezupftes.de/?p=7057
https://www.tagblatt.ch/ostschweiz/arbon-kreuzlingen-weinfelden/musiker-aus-aller-welt-kommen-ld.846439

https://www.tagblatt.ch/ostschweiz/arbon-kreuzlingen-weinfelden/scherbakov-auf-thurgau-tournee-ld.395712

https://www.tagblatt.ch/ostschweiz/arbon-kreuzlingen-weinfelden/suchten-ruhe-und-inspiration-ld.850490

https://www.muvac.com/de/profile/alexander-scherbakov

https://www.ambito.com/edicion-impresa/musica-alto-nivel-ushuaia-n3731867

His official site is alexanderscherbakov.com. Could someone assess his notability or help draft this? Thanks! 178.197.210.241 (talk) 00:19, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that this would differ from the current two (as of 16 Mar 2025) on Wikidata, Alexander Shcherbakov (Q4528796) (also Alexander Shcherbakov (writer) [ru; uk]) & Alexander M. Scherbakov (Q52602875), so the name of the article might need to be Alexander Scherbakov (musician) or something similar. Peaceray (talk) 01:30, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion! “Alexander Scherbakov (musician)” works perfectly to distinguish from others. I’ve got more sources to support this:

Would someone be willing to start a draft, or should I submit via AfC as “Alexander Scherbakov (musician)”? Appreciate the guidance!

178.197.210.241 (talk) 09:44, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Talk:Goldman Band § Where is my template section for Goldman Band Cornet Soloists?

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Goldman Band § Where is my template section for Goldman Band Cornet Soloists?, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:12, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music/Participants

So, having taken a look at the participants page, I've discovered there were some indef blocked users and some users that haven't been active in a while. I'm thinking of doing a mass re-organization of this page. Any ideas? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:50, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Klein has been nominated for deletion per the request of the subject

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Klein; input from project members or page watchers/interlopers, especially those more familiar than I am with subject-requested deletions or how our notability guidelines relate to classical musicians, would be appreciated. Graham87 (talk) 07:36, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

David Alan Miller

Could someone please assess this article about a conductor? It's rated as a Start in quality, but I would like it assessed against the B-Class criteria. Thank you in advance. Bearian (talk) 03:14, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Article's definitely not start class. I have re-assessed to B-class level, although somebody needs to get citations in for the dogs of desire section. ❤History Theorist❤ 00:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]